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  • 1.  Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-04-2023 04:15 PM

    Hi SEC preparers,

    I'm looking to benchmark how companies handle their tie out process. If you have any best practices or advice that has worked well, please share.

    1. Who prepares and who reviews your 10-Q and 10-K tie outs? (i.e. prepared by SEC Staff, Accounting Senior, and reviewed by SEC Manager, Controller, etc. 

    2. Can you provide the approximate size of your SEC Reporting team?

    Thanks in advance!



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    Jamie Yamamoto
    Director of SEC Reporting and Technical Accounting
    Sterling Check Corp.
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  • 2.  RE: Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-07-2023 08:16 PM

    Thanks for the great questions Jamie! If I remember correctly, our last survey of SEC Pro members told us that the average team size was about 3-5 people. That's a bit subjective, however, considering that many teams will use dual-purpose roles to help with SEC reporting at quarter-end, and then focus on non-financial reporting  projects when they weren't preparing a filing. When I was running SEC reporting teams, we had our SEC Staff preparing the tie outs (with clerical assistance from an intern), which would get reviewed by a manager, myself (as the director), and then by our controller (only for selected areas of the document) before being delivered to the external auditors. We also did our tie-outs in Workiva, so all of the review occured digitally, even our external auditors.

    (Initially our auditors refused to go in to Workiva but we insisted. After a couple of years, we actually negotiated a reduction in audit fees based on the efficiency gains that the digital review created for them.) 



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    Steve Soter
    Executive Advisor
    SEC. ESG & SOX Pro Groups
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  • 3.  RE: Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-08-2023 12:32 PM

    Thanks for the insight Steve! This is what I wanted to get a pulse on. With smaller SEC reporting teams (i.e. team of one) I was curious how the they tie out assignments were spread out to the accounting team and at what level. 

    Interesting note on the reduction in fees by bringing in the auditor. I've tried to pull them in for draft review and comments, and they were going to INCREASE our billing. But perhaps the tie out documentation might have been a better selling point. I'll keep this one in mind for the future.



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    Jamie Yamamoto
    Director of SEC Reporting and Technical Accounting
    Sterling Check Corp.
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  • 4.  RE: Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-10-2023 03:34 PM

    Most often, I was the only person that made up the SEC reporting team. I did a complete tie-out of the entire document (10-Q/10-K/8-K) and it was reviewed by my direct supervisor (Controller, VP of Accounting, etc.). Currently, the entire tie-out is prepared using Wdesk and it is sent to our auditors in pdf format. It is working quite well! I would think you'd have an internal control process around the tie-out and review? 



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    Dale Karasek
    Manager, SEC Reporting
    Guild Holdings Company
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  • 5.  RE: Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-14-2023 03:36 PM

    Our External Financial Reporting team currently consists of two very experienced managers and one fairly new staff member with about three years of experience, all reporting to the Director of Accounting.  The tie out for each 10-Q/K section is assigned to be prepared by one of the three EFR members and to be reviewed by a different one of those three or the Director.  Tie outs are either Excel or PDF (using a PDF editor called eCopy PDF Pro Office).    This is working, but we'll be considering Workiva Wdesk next year.



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    Michael Gummersheimer
    Manager, Technical Accounting & External Reporting
    Spire Inc.
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  • 6.  RE: Tie out responsibilities

    Posted 12-14-2023 07:29 PM
    Our SEC reporting team is comprised of 3 staff members – a senior manager, a senior accountant, and an accountant 1. We all report to the Corporate Controller. The senior manager does some prep of tie-outs but mostly reviews tie-outs from the senior and the staff. The Corporate Controller will perform a high-level review of everything.

    Jake